Today on the show we're talking about the future, the past, and if a famous basketball player

responsible for the death of his dad or not, more of this today on Ducy.

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Zoom me out camera person. And there we go. And you know that.

I mean, technically you're the camera person because it's webcam sitting on top of your monitor. Do you not call the people in your head camera person or camera people?

My first question for you today. I call them people with cameras.

All right, well, join me. I'm going to say my eyes are my director's photography.

I got James and Elise joining me today as I hang on the leaves change the shot. Let me just change the shot.

Hey, Adam and special guest.

Donald Mac. Hey, talk. Hey, let's go to the two shot. Elise's eyes. All right.

Oh, God. They go so many different directors. And I'm your host, Adam Kovic. I'll be saying the words and getting you through this entire fun loving podcast.

I want to I want to raise the spirits. I read an article to it said people are looking for things that make them feel better about themselves.

No idea why. Well, figure will come to some sort of conclusion. Usually I think people like tragedy.

But today we're going to try to make it we're going to make it fun. Are you guys okay with that? Yeah.

Yeah. Go meet my Maracas. Is this like a new thing? Do we always is this like a new thing that human beings want to have joy?

I think so. Yeah. I think we've had it too long. And then something happened. And now we want to be happy again.

Got it. Todd, we had you on the podcast a little while ago when we were in Austin, James and I we did it with you and Gus.

Yeah, that charted. That was a big that was number one in the billboard charts.

Did you say sharded felt like it's sharded? Yes.

charted. It's sharded. Pretty high.

And we I think we made one of the biggest faux paws in the industry where we had you on because we know who you are

and we know of your breath of work. But the audience did not. We never got to talk about that.

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