Who Were The Busby Babes?
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
The Overlap
4.9 • 667 Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.
Following Gary Neville’s tribute to the triumph and tragedy of the Busby Babes on the anniversary week of the Munich Air Disaster, we begin a three-part series on how the tragedy shaped the future of Manchester United.
In Part One, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore who the Busby Babes were, how the term came to be, and how Sir Matt Busby built his legendary team. They discuss the club’s pioneering youth system, Bobby Charlton’s journey to becoming a United supporter, and the importance of developing young talent. Among them was Duncan Edwards, regarded as one of England’s greatest footballers at the time, whose life was tragically cut short in 1958.
The episode closes with the team’s final match before the fateful Munich Air Disaster.
Next week, It Was What It Was presents a special episode focusing on the Munich Air Disaster, its immediate aftermath, and how Matt Busby’s rebuilt side laid the foundation for the Manchester United we know today.
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| 0:00.0 | The thermometer was doing a war dance. There was no breath left in anyone. The players came off arm in arm. |
| 0:15.0 | They knew they had fashioned something of which to be proud. Well, welcome to it was what it was with me, Rob Draper and with Jonathan Wilson. |
| 0:24.1 | That was Geoffrey Green in the Times on Arsenal 4, Manchester United 5, 1st of February, 1958. |
| 0:32.6 | The last game that the great Busby-Babe side played in England, the great Manchester |
| 0:37.1 | United side of |
| 0:38.1 | 1958. I guess an indication of how brilliant they were before they obviously flew off to Europe |
| 0:44.9 | and would eventually several of them die in the Munich Air disaster of 1958. And we're beginning |
| 0:50.8 | a three-part series on that disaster because we think it's not only important to remember |
| 0:57.0 | because of the personal tragedy of the people involved |
| 1:00.2 | but also the shaping of Manchester United as a football club |
| 1:03.3 | and the modern European game |
| 1:05.3 | so much is imbued in this moment |
| 1:07.5 | and so much of what we know of football |
| 1:09.9 | and begins with this terrible tragedy. |
| 1:13.1 | And of course this is part one of the three-part history, but do go back and listen to the |
| 1:17.5 | introduction to this series, which Gary Neville did a couple of days ago, just an extraordinary |
| 1:23.9 | talk with Gary Neville about the history of resonance of this tragedy. |
| 1:28.1 | So Jonathan, perhaps you could just introduce us to the themes of who were the Buzzby Babes. |
| 1:33.6 | Why did people think they were so good? |
| 1:35.4 | And how does this disaster come to have such a magnified role in the history of football? |
| 1:41.5 | Yeah, I mean, this series, it's in three parts. |
| 2:01.1 | So today's part, we're really going to be talking about who were the babes. The second part, we're talking about the crash itself, and the third part, we're talking about the aftermath and legacy. So I think maybe the best place to start discussing who the babes were is to talk about that, that game at Highbury, Arsenal 4, Manchester United 5, which obviously is a ridiculous scoreline. |
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