Who was the 'Man-Monster' Of New York?
After Dark: Myths, Misdeeds & the Paranormal
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4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 8 September 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
On June 16, 1836, in New York City, Mary Jones stood in a courtroom that was a cauldron of hatred. Mary was African American and one of the first known transgender women in US history. Anthony Delaney tells Maddy Pelling the final story from his new book out now: Queer Georgians: A Hidden History of Lovers, Lawbreakers and Homemakers (published as Queer Enlightenments in the US).
Edited by Richie Power. Produced by Freddy Chick. Senior Producer is Charlotte Long.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone. It's us, your hosts Maddie Pelling and Anthony Delaney. |
| 0:04.2 | But before we begin the show, we want to ask for a few seconds of your time. |
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| 1:15.1 | Hello and welcome to After Dark, I'm Maddie. And I'm Anthony. |
| 1:16.1 | And this is the second of two very special episodes celebrating the release of a little book called Queer Georgians by our very own Anthony Delaney. |
| 1:24.4 | This is a story from the pages of that book all about the so-called man-monster |
| 1:28.6 | of New York. Anthony, set the scene, please. |
| 1:34.9 | The 16th of June 1836, Mary Jones, a free black woman, enters a packed New York courtroom. |
| 1:43.9 | The atmosphere is electric. A wooden floorboards |
| 1:47.2 | thrum with the depth of men's voices, their laughter and scorn. From the gallery seats, |
| 1:54.4 | vultuous members of the public, having been scandalised by the details of the case when it first |
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