Who To Believe?

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BBC

Science, Technology

4.3 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

For many years the Chinese sourced organs for transplant from executed prisoners. Around a decade ago the authorities acknowledged that this practice had gone on and announced that it was to be stopped. In the first programme exploring the Chinese approach to organ transplantation Matthew Hill tells the grim story of the revelation of the source of organs, he meets a surgeon with first-hand experience of removing organs from executed prisoners. We talk to campaigners who believe the practice is still going on, they allege religious and ethnic minority groups in China are now a source for an illicit trade in human organs. Officially the practice of using organs for transplant from executed Prisoners ceased in 2015, China now has an organ donation registry and say the majority of organs come from people who die in intensive care units, however questions remain over whether this source is sufficient for the number of transplants performed. Picture: Asian surgeons in the operating room, Shanghai, China, Credit: Asia-Pacific Images Studio/Getty Images

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0:31.0	He was alive.
0:32.0	How do you know he was alive?
0:33.0	Because when I cut through, he was trying to struggle and there was bleeding.
0:39.0	If we see there's bleeding, it means heart still beating.
0:44.0	So you just carried on cutting through and what exactly did you remove?
0:49.0	Liver and two kidneys.
0:52.0	This man, Enver Totti, was a Chinese surgeon. He had tasked with removing
0:57.0	organs as a prisoner was executed. He says it happened in 1995, but he's still haunted by what he remembers.
1:05.5	My chief surgeon asked me to assemble a team
1:09.4	then the next morning to come with him to the Western Mountain execution ground where the deliberately
1:19.3	shot the man of course there were many other prisoners was executed but this one was deliberately shot to the right chest
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