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Welcome back to your Tuesday buck. I talk Doug Lamarice, Nathan Baird, Stephen Means, Jim Knowles, Ryan Day and Kevin Wilson.

First day of Ohio State Spring football practice on Tuesday morning. We watched them warm up. We watched three practice periods, which are five minutes each.

And then we talked to Ryan Day, Jim Knowles and Kevin Wilson for like 20 to 25 minutes each. So we got a lot of good football info. This podcast here on Tuesday afternoon is going to focus on the defense.

Is that right? Yeah. And then the offense we will do on Wednesday as of Wednesday morning pods. We're just going to break it up because there's a lot to go over.

So we did some videos. You can find them on our YouTube channel. I don't know if you guys are subscribed to that. Sometimes the YouTube channel videos. It's similar content sometimes, but sometimes those get up a little earlier than the podcast. You can always go there to Cleveland dot com go to YouTube, putting Cleveland dot com in Ohio State. You'll find it. It'll come up.

So let's start in the secondary guys and let's start with court Williams.

I had really come around to the idea that I really thought man, he might be the linebacker room. And we get there and he's playing with the safeties. He's safe.

Jim Knowles, we asked about that. He made that clear. Nathan, he said he likes court Williams deep.

So getting that overall view of the defense, which allows him to sort of then diagnose and see what's up. It still feels like he will have ample opportunity to be involved in the run game.

I just think that's a lot of what he does best. I kind of want him up.

I think the line of scrimmage sometimes attacking running backs, you know, getting after receivers on short passes. So I think Jim Knowles will find let Jim Knowles is smart. He'll figure this out.

But was I an island there thinking that court Williams might be a linebacker or what did you think of the idea of like man, that guy's a safety.

No, I think that that was worth throwing out there. I think I threw it out there on the podcast we did just because he has a very linebacker-ish body.

He was recruited as a bullet and at the time of our understanding of what that was, it seemed like a more hybrid position than what it maybe turned out to be.

When they played him extensively in the Rose Bowl, it was to get him on the field as an additional piece of run support against what Utah did.

I think such a run heavy multiple tight end team. So there were a lot of things that would certainly lead you to throw that out there speculation.

I think Jim Knowles' description of the whole thing though makes sense that because of the sort of football IQ, the leadership acumen, all those things that they see in court Williams.

And then athletically on top of all that, it makes sense to have him at a position where, and especially the one that they're talking about him at, the boundary safety position, the strong safety position.

However you want to call it, there's going to be some fluidity in that and we'll hammer down the terminology and assign it to players as we go, which still learning all that as we watch what they do with these guys.

It makes sense. I think still just the question then though becomes when you have a healthy Josh Proctor, when you have Ronnie Hickman, when you have court Williams, when you have probably some Bryson Shaw, I mean, it starts to stack up pretty quick just in terms of numbers back there.

And that's obviously a strength for Ohio State that they haven't necessarily had as we were talking about after practice.

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