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🗓️ 25 July 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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What is Herbal Ecstasy—and why does it matter? This might be one of the most insane episodes we’ve ever recorded, and we had to bring it back because the story is too wild, too relevant, and too packed with real lessons in biohacking, brain optimization, and supplement hacking to miss.
Host Dave Asprey sits down with Shaahin Cheyene, the renegade teenage entrepreneur who built a billion-dollar supplement empire before he could legally drink. As the creator of Herbal Ecstasy, Shaahin hacked natural compounds into high-performance nootropics that boosted energy, neuroplasticity, and metabolism—long before biohacking was a movement. He faced seven federal investigations, never spent a day in jail, and went on to pioneer the vaporizer industry and dominate Amazon with advanced supplement marketing.
This episode explores how Shaahin reverse-engineered functional medicine principles, used ancient plant medicine to upgrade human performance, and scaled a controversial brand using raw hustle and hacking tactics. You’ll hear how Herbal Ecstasy worked, why it was banned, and what it teaches us about supplements, mitochondrial function, dopamine regulation, and the dark politics behind wellness innovation.
You’ll learn:
• Why Herbal Ecstasy became a billion-dollar underground supplement
• How Shaahin used nootropics and adaptogens to hack energy, focus, and neuroplasticity
• What his clash with the FDA reveals about supplement regulation and functional medicine
• How dopamine, mitochondria, and metabolism drive human performance
• The difference between hacking systems vs conforming to broken ones
• How storytelling, podcasting, and controversial supplements build legacy brands
Whether you’re optimizing your sleep, hacking your brain, experimenting with ketosis or fasting, or upgrading your stack with supplements that actually work—this channel delivers strategies, cautionary tales, and insight you won’t find anywhere else. lt is essential listening for anyone serious about biohacking, brain optimization, supplements, mitochondria, metabolism, functional medicine, nootropics, longevity, dopamine, cold therapy, sleep optimization, emotional regulation, neuroplasticity, fasting, podcasting, RFK-era health freedom, ketosis, entrepreneurship, and building influence smarter not harder—with or without Danger Coffee.
Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade is the top podcast for people who want to take control of their biology, extend their longevity, and optimize every system in the body and mind. Each episode features cutting-edge insights in health, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, hacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.
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• Shaahin’s Website: https://www.shaahincheyenne.com/
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Timestamps:
• 0:00 — Trailer
• 0:45 — Intro and guest setup
• 4:39 — Escaping Iran and early hustle
• 8:26 — Birth of Herbal Ecstasy
• 14:21 — Explosive growth and legal heat
• 25:06 — Lessons on money and business
• 31:17 — Inventing the digital vaporizer
• 40:03 — Hacking success on Amazon
• 41:59 — Nootropics and the Limitless pill
• 46:38 — Martial arts and mental resilience
• 55:44 — Podcasting, media, and influence
• 1:07:09 — Where to find Shaahin and closing thoughts
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0:00.0 | We created seven-figure, eight-figure, one company that is close to becoming nine-figure company selling on Amazon. |
0:06.3 | You've been homeless. You lived out of your car. You fled Iran when you were five years old, carrying your family on your back. |
0:11.9 | You made good of yourself, despite yourself. But then, you kind of got seven different state governments coming after you. |
0:18.1 | There was a company which will remain nameless, but they had spent billions creating |
0:22.1 | a little blue pill. |
0:23.5 | They were going to be making billions and billions. |
0:25.9 | But here's this little Persian kit. |
0:27.6 | It's not even 21. |
0:29.0 | And he's creating a billion dollars in revenue with a product that's unregulated. |
0:34.5 | So they came after me directly. |
0:36.7 | What was their charge? |
0:39.1 | You're listening to The Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. |
0:45.0 | What are we going to talk about? What are you going to learn today? Well, how about we talk |
0:49.5 | with the Willy Wonka of Generation X? That's a name I think you've earned, building a billion-dollar |
0:57.2 | ecstasy business and not going to jail for it, creating herbal ecstasy being investigated by |
1:05.1 | seven attorney generals and not going to jail for it, because there's nothing wrong with |
1:09.2 | selling herbal ecstasy. And this is back in the 90s um so this is a while ago and weren't even 18 when you did that nope okay so are you guys interested yet like what is this you know kind of drug kingpin from the 90s got for us except he's also an amazon expert since Since then, he's been selling neutral picks and a |
1:28.5 | bunch of other stuff on Amazon as a very, very successful entrepreneur. So he's also an author, |
1:35.0 | filmmaker. Got a couple of his books here, like Billion, how he became the king of the thrill |
1:40.6 | pill cult. So basically, all around, interesting guy, Shaheen, Cheyenne. |
1:46.8 | Perfect. |
1:47.5 | When people are taking a lot of herbal ecstasy and they try to say your name three |
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