Who should get an AI kill switch?
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🗓️ 17 June 2026
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Summary
Last week, the Trump Administration ordered Anthropic to cut off access to its most advanced AI models — Mythos 5 and the pared-down public version, Fable 5 — from foreign nationals due to reported security weaknesses in Fable's safeguards.
In response, Anthropic shut them down for everyone including the handful of companies that had been granted access to Mythos.
One of those companies is Mozilla, which said Mythos identified about 270 bugs in its Firefox browser that had slipped through previous reviews.
Marketplace’s Meghan McCarty Carino spoke with Mozilla chief technology officer Raffi Krikorian about the government essentially hitting a kill switch on the system.
What to know about the Anthropic models takedown - from The Hill
Mythos and Fable can make us all safer. Shutting them down is reckless - from the Transformer Substack
Federal spending on Y2K reaches $8.38 billion - from CNET
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| 0:00.0 | Programming, supported by Trinity Exteriors, a local team working to help neighbors across Minnesota maintain safe, comfortable homes, offering roofing, siding, and window renovations. |
| 0:10.1 | Information and more at trinityexteriors.com. |
| 0:16.0 | Should the government have a kill switch for AI? |
| 0:19.7 | From American Public Media, this is Marketplace Tech. |
| 0:22.8 | I'm Megan McCarty Carino. |
| 0:33.5 | Last week, the Trump administration ordered Anthropic to cut off access to its most advanced AI models, |
| 0:40.3 | Mythos and the paired down public version, Fable, from foreign nationals due to reported security weaknesses in Fable's safeguards. |
| 0:49.5 | In response, Anthropic shut them down for everyone, including the handful of companies that had been granted |
| 0:55.2 | access to Mythos to shore up cybersecurity. One of those is Mozilla, which said Mythos identified |
| 1:01.7 | about 270 bugs in its Firefox browser that had slipped through previous reviews. |
| 1:08.3 | Mozilla Chief Technology Officer Rafi Krikorian says the government essentially |
| 1:13.2 | hit a kill switch on the system. The fight about fable, whether it's dangerous or not, is one that |
| 1:19.5 | we should be having. But the real question that we now should be asking is, like, who gets to |
| 1:23.6 | throw a switch like this? Like, who needs to disclose why that switch is being thrown? |
| 1:29.0 | Are there, should there be written reason? Should there be appealed? Should there be independent |
| 1:32.6 | review? You know, I talk a lot about when it comes to these AI intelligence systems that we need |
| 1:37.9 | to be owners and not renters. And I think this is like the biggest example of renting that I've |
| 1:43.2 | ever seen that, you know, |
| 1:44.7 | a technology that I could be depending on, all of a sudden by someone else's decision is now |
| 1:50.4 | being shut off and access being cut off worldwide. And so, you know, we at Mozilla will be fine, |
| 1:56.9 | but, you know, lots of critical bugs were found in OpenStore software. |
| 2:01.4 | And now we are not just cutting off the offense side of it. |
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