Welcome to the Athletic FC podcast with me, Ayo Aikim Woler. Last week, Chelsea sacked Liam Rossinia, but still reached the FA Cup final. The big question, though, who should be Chelsea's next permanent manager.

And with us today, we have James Horncastle.

We've also got our Chelsea correspondent Liam Toomey as well.

And they're flooding forward with the blue shirt.

Enzo Fernandez.

Well, Enzo Fernandez there with the only goal at Wembley to beat Leeds United.

James, I guess there's a tell here that perhaps the hierarchy feels sort of vindicated in sacking Liam Resini.

But I don't know, we've mentioned it several times on this podcast.

It's not just Liam Rossina, who might be the problem at Chelsea.

There's probably a lot more to deal with than just the head coach or the manager.

Yeah, let's not forget in the statement, the briefing notes that Chelsea put out,

we're still in a period of reflection over how they've handled this season.

You know, the decision that they claimed was forced upon them to move on from Enzo Moreska.

And then Resenia, who, you know, they had high hopes for it didn't work out.

I think a lot of people at the time thought that regardless of how Ressinia handled himself in the media, it was a job

that came too soon, that he should have been allowed to stay at Shasbourg and develop.

And, you know, I think for Chelsea, this is a team, a group of players, rather, that have won trophies.

Already last year, let's not forget, they won a couple of trophies.

They won the Conference League.

They won the Club World Cup.

They are world champions.

And that's how everyone calls them.

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