I am Joel Anderson. I'm a writer at Slate magazine and host of the Slow Burn

Narrative Podcast series, including season three, Big Ian Tupac.

Joel's the kind of person you reach out to when there's been an arrest in the

Tupac Shakur murder case. The only thing is there's never been an arrest in the

Tupac Shakur murder case until now. We are here today to announce the arrest of

60-year-old Dwayne Keith Davis, aka KVD. He was charged with murder with use of a

deadly weapon and there's this tremendous breakthrough in an investigation that

technically never went cold but seemed destined to go unresolved into the

legal system. Well I know there's been many people who did not believe that the

murder of Tupac Shakur was important to this police department. I'm here to tell

you that was simply not the case. Big news on a case 27 years old, coming up on

today's blind.

The first thing I wanted to ask Joel Anderson was how surprised he was a week

ago today when he got the news that there'd been an arrest in the Tupac case.

Not very because the guy who was arrested had kind of been implicating himself in

Tupac's murder for at least the last five or six years. So there's either two

ways to think about it. One, well they're just never going to arrest anybody just

because they don't think they can make a case or that it's inevitable. Like one

day somebody's going to be like, hey this guy's been talking a lot about being

there on the night the Tupac got killed. Maybe we should bring him in and so it seems

that they finally settled on option B. Okay, I want to hear a lot more about how we got there

and how this person goes so long without getting arrested apparently. But let's just take it back

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