Who's to blame for all this plastic?
Short Wave
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🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 13 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. |
| 0:06.0 | Beth Gardner is an environmental journalist, and for years, she carried around a reusable water bottle or brought a canvas bag to the grocery store, you know, daily actions to reduce the plastic in her life. |
| 0:17.8 | And then one day I read an article, and it just was like a total gut punch because the article said that huge fossil fuel and petrochemical companies like ExxonMobil and their peers in the industry were ramping up to actually increase plastic production. |
| 0:36.4 | Plastics come from petrochemicals, which are made by the fossil fuel industry. |
| 0:41.1 | And reading the news that the industry planned to make even more plastic stopped Beth in her tracks. |
| 0:50.6 | To then learn that, you know, this gigantic, wealthy, super politically powerful industry was actually |
| 0:59.8 | pushing really hard in the other direction and pouring billions of dollars into new manufacturing |
| 1:06.3 | facilities and that their plans were to make even more plastic in the future, it just, you know, was such a shock. |
| 1:14.0 | Planted the seed for her new book, Plastic, Inc. |
| 1:22.0 | Plastic as a revenue stream is helping to float the fossil fuel industry and keep it going as it starts to be |
| 1:32.3 | undersold by clean energy. So any additional source of money is a way to keep drilling. Today on the show, |
| 1:38.5 | the proliferation of plastic. It's history. It's connection to climate change. And what kind of |
| 1:43.0 | action could truly reverse the plastic tide? |
| 1:46.7 | I'm Emily Kwong, and you're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. |
| 1:57.7 | Plastics of peel was obvious from the start. It could be molded into different shapes, |
| 2:03.0 | given texture, made in different colors. Celluloid, a plastic patented in 1869, was used to make |
| 2:09.4 | billiard balls, combs, and eventually film for movies. Then along came newer plastics, |
| 2:15.0 | like plexiglass, nylon, polyethylene, all derived from the byproducts of |
| 2:20.8 | fossil fuels, each with distinctive characteristics. Now, polyethylene-coded cables, as I learned |
| 2:27.1 | in Beth Gardner's new book, Plastic Inc, improved radar so much during World War II that it |
| 2:33.2 | helped turn the naval side of the conflict in favor of |
| 2:35.7 | the Allies. But as the war wound down, manufacturers had a decision to make. What would they do with |
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