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The Daily

Who’s Really Running Iran?

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The killing of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ushered in a new form of collective leadership, with more power for the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Natalie Kittrow-F. This is the Daily.

0:09.7

It was a chaotic weekend of news out of Washington. There was a shooting at an event where President Trump and top cabinet officials were gathered, which were following and we'll update on later in the show.

0:22.2

And also, Trump abruptly and dramatically called off the latest round of peace talks with Iran

0:27.9

at the very last minute, leaving the fate of the ceasefire in limbo.

0:33.3

One of the main reasons Trump gave was that he doesn't think Iran is sending credible

0:37.5

negotiators to the table and says he has no idea who's actually in charge of the country.

0:44.2

Today, my colleague Farnas Fasiki takes us inside the world of Iran's leaders and explains

0:50.7

what her reporting reveals about what they really want.

0:58.8

It's Monday, April 27th.

1:05.4

Farnas, it's wonderful to have you back on the show.

1:08.3

Thank you for having me, Natalie.

1:10.4

So what do we know about

1:12.2

what just happened, where we saw Trump suddenly back away from face-to-face negotiations with Iran?

1:19.1

It almost seemed like over the weekend he kind of turned the team of American negotiators around

1:23.9

as they were basically on their way to the airport. We started this weekend thinking that Iranians and Americans were going to meet in Islamabad

1:32.1

for a second round of negotiations.

1:34.9

Iran's foreign minister went to Islamabad and the U.S. Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff and

1:40.9

President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, were scheduled to also fly to Pakistan on Saturday, and everyone anticipated another round of talks.

1:50.6

And then we started getting mixed messages.

1:53.1

The Iranian said, oh, well, we're not meeting directly with the Americans and the foreign minister left Pakistan.

1:58.7

And President Trump abruptly announced on social media that he

2:02.2

was canceling the talks and not sending his envoys to meet with the Iranians. And now we're in a

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