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Please, welcome to the stage, the spectator's political correspondent Lucy Dunn, political editor Tim Shipman and Deputy Political Editor James Heel.

Thanks very much joining us. It's quite an early time, so I appreciate you all turning out.

And hello and welcome to Copyhouse Shots Live.

I think we'll start, first of all, just quite generally both.

How have you found the Conservative Party conference thus far, James?

Well, I think it's not too different from Labour Conference last week, which I described the spectator as a holiday from reality. Things haven't gone terribly well for the Conservatives this year, but I think everyone's here, sort of, a bit of sort of seeing who's still around, so survivor bias. Everything's on a bit of a slightly smaller scale. So I think inevitably there's been much comment about the lack of cues, perhaps at the middle and bar later tonight, that could be a good or bad thing, depending on your standpoint. But I think that it's been a reasonably upbeat. You've been a lot of policy announced, and I think that's a reflection of the need to respond. I think that when Camadon initially came in, there was a sense of wanting to fight the battle of ideas. I think with the rise of reformed UK, it's made it much more about an attention economy, so lots of eye-catching announcements. And I think that reasonably it's gone pretty well for as a conference. But of course, the question then becomes about will that actually make a blind bit of difference given the sort of anger out there. Tim, your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I'm sort of pleasantly surprised. I guess I was a bit by labour as well. I thought everybody would slitting their throats at both conferences and that hasn't turned out to be the case. There's a bit of energy, and the fact that you've all made it here at half past 10 after a heavy night shows that you're up for the fight, which is what the Conservative Party needs to be. Yeah, I agree with everything James has said. I think, look, the big picture here is that if this conference had gone badly, we'd have been

returning to Westminster to write about a leadership challenge. I don't think people are going

to be putting their letters in on November the 2nd unless the leader does something extremely

curious tomorrow. So I think she's bought herself the time to show progress up to the

very local elections, which I think are going to be extremely difficult.

You know, there are some grounds for gentle optimism.

I think reform have made some mistakes over the last couple of weeks.

They've aligned themselves too closely with some of that slightly batty stuff

that comes out of the American online right.

Their migration policy, they took the view that it was impossible to have a policy that

was too tough, but I think they may have just about succeeded in doing that.

You guys have parked that issue.

I think as a result of what was announced on Sunday, people will be gently happy with

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