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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shops. I'm Lucy Dunn and today I'm joined by James Heel and Willie Mackinson.

The Conservative Party Conference has come to a close and and party leader, Kimmy Bazanoke,

who's just delivered her speech on the main stage. James, what were the top lines? So I think there are two real takeaways from Cammy Badenog's conference speech. The first course was the rabbit out of the hat, and that was the announcement that she would abolish stamp duty if elected in the next government. This is expected to cost around $9 billion. and it's really a sort of way of doing a couple of things at once,

where it's appealing to the notion of a property-owning democracy, it's trying to be a sort of offer for new homeowners. And it's also a way of sort of grabbing the headlines back. It was very sort of reminiscent to me of 2007 and George Osborne's inheritance tax announcement, which really killed the Gordon Brown momentum.

So that was the first takeaway. The second takeaway, Lucy, I think, was just the macro narrative shift.

What we saw today was much, was much punchier in terms of defending the conservative record in government.

It was, you know, it wasn't the sort of apologising and the hand-wring that we might come to expect over the past year. This was a more assertive defence of sort of the Tory record on the deficit, the party's support for Ukraine, and some of the welfare reforms that Ian Duncan Smith announced. Now, of course, we can all say that a lot of those things did get worse by the end of the time, but it was a more resolute defence. And I think that for the party faithful, for a pretty difficult grimly of the Conservatives,

it was exactly what they wanted to hear. So my sense is it was a good speech for Carrie Bay Nox.

She looked relaxed, poised, smiling and delivering a speech that I think will allay some of the jitters

around her performance as leader. Well, Robert Jenrick spoke yesterday, the Shadow Justice Secretary,

who was a one-time leadership

rival to Kimi Badenoch. Did his speech over shadow Badenox today?

Well, I would say that the shadow of Robert Jenrik has leaned quite large over this conference,

which is rather remarkable because he's not the largest man in the world, especially after

his recent weight loss. But I'd say that he may have owned yesterday's the day at conference. He did a very punchy speech about Lord Homer and restoring the judiciary to its pre-toney Blair position. But I think today, Kimmy Veynock is given a speech for life, which I say is somebody who's not always been the biggest fan of her. And I think it's a consequence, you know, the series of policy and how much she made over stamp duty, you know, the reform

to so-called Mickey Mouse degrees will have sort of seized back the sort of conference narrative.

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