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Reasons Revisited

Who’s afraid of the kleptocrats?: cleaning up corruption

Reasons Revisited

Geoff Lloyd

Society & Culture, Government, News, Politics

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Hello! You may not know it, but for decades Britain has enabled the dodgy dealings of the world's criminals, tax dodgers and kleptocrats, says journalist Oliver Bullough. He's been digging deep into Britain’s role as a 'butler to the world' for years, but very little has changed. Estimates suggest that the equivalent of three times the NHS budget is lost to the economy through corruption every year, so why isn’t the government acting? Oliver is joined by Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge to discuss how and why Britain got into the business of dirty money, why we all should care about corruption, and what we can do to change it.


Plus: Has Ed finally got his own back on Geoff following the vegan cheese making incident?


Guests

Oliver Bullough, Journalist and Author of Butler to the World and Moneyland (@OliverBullough)


Dame Margaret Hodge, Labour MP for Barking and Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Anti-Corruption and Responsible Tax (@margarethodge)



More information

Buy a copy of Oliver’s book ‘Butler to the World: How Britain became the servant of tycoons, tax dodgers, kleptocrats and criminals


The APPG on Anti-Corruption and Responsible Tax


Support and learn more about the work of Transparency International (@anticorruption), Global Witness (@Global_Witness), Spotlight on Corruption (@EndCorruptionUK)




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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by the Financial Fairness Podcast, which I've recently become a

0:05.1

subscriber to. If you like this, I'm sure you're going to enjoy it. It is excellent conversations

0:11.6

about the issues that affect living standards. I listened to a great one yesterday,

0:16.3

with Chief Executive of the Trustle Trust, Emma Revy, who's working to stop UK hunger and poverty.

0:21.9

And she's incredible obviously. Now of course, people needing to turn to food banks because

0:26.6

of financial hardship is deeply troubling. But it was also really inspiring to hear about how

0:32.8

they meet that need with compassion and also Emma's thoughts on what needs to change.

0:38.4

And that is what is at the heart of every episode and of the Financial Fairness Trust itself,

0:44.9

improving living standards for people on low to middle incomes in the UK. Now like I said,

0:49.8

I'm certain that if you enjoy our podcast, you'll really love it and I'm just looking down

0:54.2

the feed. And they have excellent guests to real heavyweights, like economist Miyata Fanbola,

1:01.2

former chancellor, Alistair Darling, award-winning money journalist Paul Lewis. Basically,

1:06.4

you get to hear some serious brains on why our economy works the way it does and how we can

1:11.6

create a fairer society. Listen and subscribe to Financial Fairness Podcast.

1:25.0

This says reasons to be cheerful with Ed Millivand and Jeff Lloyd.

1:29.5

Well, hello. Well, hello. Happy April. Finally, my birthday month. I know. The big 5.0.

1:38.3

I'm thinking about presents for you. Well, it's funny you should say that because I wanted to

1:42.6

talk about something. Oh God, normally when you say that, that means I've done something wrong.

1:46.4

No. I failed to respond to a text. I ghosted you. I didn't invite you to lunch with George Ezra.

1:50.9

It's a long list. Yeah. So something people might have heard us talk about,

1:56.3

Adam Fanitem on the podcast, is some years ago Ed bought me as a gift, a vegan cheese making kit.

2:03.6

And I failed to use it. Yeah. Now to be fair to me, I think from memory, it was quite close to

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