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Who's a Scientologist?

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Shameless Media

Society & Culture

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Hi there! Coming up on today’s show: it seems like every time SNL cast member Chloe Fineman is mentioned on the internet, the top comment is always something like – “She’s funny, but she’s a Scientologist.” Is it true that Chloe Fineman and her family have ties to Scientology? If it is… wouldn’t that make her a victim who deserves our sympathy, not some big bad bully who deserves to be taken down a peg? On today’s show, Zara recommended Jennifer Aniston on Armchair Expert.  Huge thanks to Love Island Australia for making this episode of Shameless possible. Also, shout-out to Dyson and the Dyson Co-anda Airwrap2x.  No Culty Vibes on TikTok Neurotology Music Video by SNL Elisabeth Moss in The New Yorker Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1). Shameless Podcast is produced by Annabelle Lee and Eilish Gilligan, executive-produced by Lucy Hunt and audio-edited by Eilish Gilligan. Our social media team consists of Naima Fatema, Emily Li and Eilish Gilligan, and our partnerships manager is Cindy Luu. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn    Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux  Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp  Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast  Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of yours. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Shameless Media

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This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Love Island Australia

0:10.6

stream the new season for free only on 9 now. Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast for smart people who love dumb stuff.

0:44.8

You're joined, as always, by Melbourne Writers, Michelle Andrews, that would be me.

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And Zara McDonald, that would be you.

0:50.7

Hello, Michelle Andrews and hello, producer, Eilish Gilligan.

0:53.3

Hi.

0:53.9

Guys, coming up on today's show, it seems like every time S&L cast member Chloe Feynman is

0:59.4

mentioned on the internet, the top comment is always something like this. She's funny, but she's a

1:05.0

Scientologist. Is it true that Chloe Feynman and her family have ties to Scientology? And if it is,

1:28.0

does that make her a victim who deserves our sympathy or a big, bad bully who deserves to be taken down a peg? We, of course, are going to wade through it all, but first, Zazzy, do you want to tell me about your week? Do you want to give me a wreck? Do you want to do both? I can do both. I suspect I can do both. We can do hard things.

1:44.2

Though I did, I did the thing that I shouldn't have done, which is I've already told both of you this. But the listeners haven't heard. And you know what? We can pretend we haven't heard it either. I just had a small moment this morning that I'm not proud of and that has been playing on my mind ever since. And I was in a spin class. And I, um, I was in a spin class and. Oh. And I was in a spin class. Oh.

1:44.3

And I am.

1:46.3

I was in a spin class and I'm not particularly good at spin. I have, you know, one of those rhythmy spin classes where you've got to move to the beat? I simply cannot do two things at once, but I do my best. lovely man in front of me, 45, 50 years old, just turns around and gives me a high five in the middle of the class, which I thought was a delightful thing to do.

2:03.0

Well, that is such... lovely man in front of me, 45, 50 years old, just turns around and gives me a high five in the

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middle of the class, which I thought was a delightful thing to do. Well, that is such epic energy. Like, we were calling this on a Friday. For someone to offer you a high five early on a Friday morning, that's exactly what I want out of my morning. Yes, I think I knew he was giving me a high five, But I wasn't, I didn't commit to it.

2:17.9

So I ended up sort of just grazing my fingers down his palm instead, just like a really light stroke. A pathetic stroke. Mm-hmm. And then I left and I thought, that's fine. No one's going to know this but me, but I was sitting next to a girlfriend. And I said, God, I didn't do well on that. She goes, that first high five. I saw that. Well, you just mentioned then the first high five. It sounds like you made good with subsequent high fives. I went straight in for the subsequent high fives, really hard, committed. This really links back into what we were talking about on Thursday's episode, and I know that

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was with belly, Gill.

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I'll catch you up in case you haven't listened.

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We were talking about how if you're going to kiss someone on the cheek or give someone a hug or a handhake, you have to commit. High fives, another one, guys. You've got to body it. Body that high five. I do feel there are very, very few moments in life that require a high five, though.

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Like, I don't think I need to train myself for high fives, given how rarely they pop up.

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Oh, never forget. there are very, very few moments in life that require a high-five, though. Like, I don't think

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