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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

Who's a 'domestic terrorist' in Donald Trump's America?

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

News, On Point, Npr, Talk Show, Daily

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

President Trump is directing the Justice Department to treat beliefs like "anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, or anti-Christianity" akin to domestic terrorism. Can the president criminalize beliefs?

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0:00.0

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0:20.4

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0:22.2

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0:58.5

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1:06.7

This is On Point. I'm Megna Chakrabardi.

1:09.9

On January 7th of this year, 37-year-old Renee Good was shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, Minnesota. She was in her SUV, stopped sideways on the street. And that's when ICE agents circled her car. They reached through the window and ordered her to get out of her car.

1:29.0

Good briefly reversed and then slowly turned the SUV to the right into the direction of traffic.

1:35.7

At that point, ICE agent Jonathan Ross fired three shots directly at Good as her vehicle turned away from him and passed him.

1:45.8

Just one hour later, in Brownsville, Texas, then Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noem,

1:51.9

declared that Renee Good was a terrorist.

1:55.6

It was an act of domestic terrorism.

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