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Tickets are on sale now at the Atlantic Festival.com. I'm Hannah Rosen. This is Radio Atlantic and today I have in the studio with me Jerusalem

Demes who is the new host of a new Atlantic show called Good on Paper.

Jerusalem, welcome to the show.

Hi, thanks for having me again. I'm so excited.

Sure.

Okay, Jerusalem, I have a very Jerusalem question for you. Have you in your personal life ever had a good on paper moment? Like a thing you thought was good on paper, that when you actually executed it or told your friends

about it, it just was not.

Yeah, well, when being asked this question, I'm realizing like how hard of a question it can be to answer.

Yeah. The thing that comes to my mind is I was very young. I must have been like 11 or something or 12 years old and I was really into rollerblading. I feel like anyone who was a kid

any time in either the 90s or the early ats, I mean they were roller skating rink parties

all the time. I don't even, roller rinks were just like common and so I love doing that and then I was watching like that TV show rocket power which is really popular and I got a skateboard and in my head because I was young I didn't like think about like this is an entirely different sport. I was just like, these are the same things. Like this is the same family of sport activity. Like I'm amazing at this one, so I want to be fantastic in this other like no problem and my mom was like I remember vividly she's like just like start slow like do something like don't do anything weird and I was like I just I in my little kid brain I just like, she doesn't get it.

Like, I'm a star.

There's like no problems here.

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