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The Playbook Podcast

Who qualifies for legislative immunity?

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

Politics, Government, Daily News, News

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

President Donald Trump is once again testing the limits of the Justice Department. Today, lawyers representing Rep. LaMonica McIver will attempt to have the case against the New Jersey Democrat thrown out. McIver’s legal team is calling the charges political prosecution and saying she qualifies for legislative immunity — which is exactly what the Supreme Court granted Trump last year. Will Trump tally another unprecedented legal win? Playbook’s Jack Blanchard and White House Bureau Chief Dasha Burns discuss the implications. Plus, Hill Republicans are set to flock to the White House today for lunch with the president on day 21 of the government shutdown, and Trump’s pick to lead the Office of Special Counsel is in hot water.

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0:00.0

This football season, Americans want to watch sports, not Big Pharma ads.

0:05.5

But this fall, pharma companies spent millions on advertisements pushing their products.

0:11.0

What's worse?

0:12.0

Big Pharma increased spending even as lawmakers from both sides of the aisle tried to stop their misleading ads.

0:18.4

Enough is enough.

0:19.9

Big Pharma needs to lower drug prices, not spend more on ads that nobody wants.

0:25.6

Sponsored by the Pharmaceutical Reform Alliance Inc.

0:33.6

Today on the Playbook podcast, it's a big day in the courts as President Trump again test the power of the Department of Justice.

0:41.6

It is day 21 of the government shut down and Trump's got the GOP round for lunch.

0:47.0

And his nominee to lead the White House office of special counsel is in very hot water.

0:53.7

Hello, I'm Jack Blanchard.

0:55.8

And I'm Dasha Burns. It is Tuesday, October 21st.

0:59.5

I have to say, if we sound a little bit different today,

1:02.7

it's because our normal recording software has gone down the chips

1:05.8

because of the Amazon Web Services outage that seems to have hammered the entire world.

1:10.7

Podcasters, we're just like you. Something like that. Dash, it's a big day on the legal front today, and let's talk about court cases. Yes. And we've done that often enough on this podcast, haven't we ever the last few months? Many, many court cases, and neither of us are JDs, which is unfortunate for everybody. No, but luckily we do understand

1:28.6

the politics of this. Yes, we do. This is a very political case this morning. Listeners may remember

1:34.0

Representative La Monica McIva, who was arrested back in May in what I'll call a scuffle which took

1:41.1

place outside an immigration detention facility in Newark.

1:44.6

She has been charged with assault following that scuffle.

1:46.7

It was a very big story back in May.

1:48.3

Well, today we have the first big court hearing when McIver's lawyers are going to try and get this case thrown out of court.

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