Who Let the Barbarians Through the Gates?
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 8 January 2021
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
The storming of the Capitol on Wednesday was a catastrophic failure of protective law enforcement, as rioters overran Capitol Police barricades and gained access to a building that a lot of police were supposed to be protecting. How did it happen? Who screwed up? And what can be done about it? Benjamin Wittes sat down with Fred Burton, the executive director of the Center for Protective Intelligence at Ontic and a former protective officer; Garrett Graff, a journalist who covers federal law enforcement and who wrote a book about continuity in government; and Lawfare's executive editor Susan Hennessey. They talked about how bad the failure was on the part of the Capitol Police, who is responsible for it, what can be done now to bring the perpetrators to justice and how we should think about changing security protocols on Capitol Hill going forward.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.8 | I don't see how you could keep any of the existing leaders of the capital police. |
| 0:42.1 | This to me is one of the most spectacular policing failures we have ever seen in American |
| 0:48.2 | law enforcement and that is a leadership problem, not a tactics problem. |
| 0:55.1 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast January 8, 2021. |
| 1:03.8 | The storming of the capital on Wednesday was a catastrophic failure of protective law |
| 1:11.1 | enforcement as rioters over ran capital police barricades and gained access to a building |
| 1:20.9 | that has a lot of police who were supposed to be protecting it. |
| 1:25.1 | How did it happen? |
| 1:26.5 | Who screwed up and what can be done about it? |
| 1:30.5 | We're not talking about Donald Trump today. |
| 1:33.6 | We're talking about the people who were supposed to protect the capital and how they failed |
| 1:38.5 | to do it. |
| 1:40.0 | Joining me in the virtual jungle studio is Fred Burton, the executive director of the |
| 1:46.4 | Center for Protective Intelligence at Antic and a former protective officer himself, |
| 1:53.7 | Garrett Graf, a journalist who covers federal law enforcement and wrote a book about continuity |
| 2:00.3 | in government and LawFair's executive editor Susan Hennessy. |
| 2:05.7 | We covered a lot of ground. |
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