Who is wrapping themselves in the flag and why?
Not Another One
Richards Green Montgomerie Martin
4.7 • 566 Ratings
🗓️ 5 September 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
The team considers whether draping and painting the Union flag or the cross of St George over public spaces is patriotic or aggressive. Do we have a uniquely reluctant attitude to the UK flag or is a commendably undemonstrative national mindset now under threat from a sinister and exclusive nationalism? Warning: contains frank disagreement.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to not another one with me Steve Richards, Tim Montgomery, Ian Martin and Miranda Green. |
| 0:18.1 | We're all once again in the studio to delve deeply in a weekend where there's a lot going on. |
| 0:25.3 | I know Tim, you're in the studio now, but you will be alive at the reform conference, presumably, well, definitely the first reform conference you have gone as a reform supporter. |
| 0:37.9 | Be weird for you. |
| 0:39.0 | You know, there you were at the heart of the Tory party |
| 0:41.3 | party conferences as the founder of Conservative Home. |
| 0:44.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:45.1 | And a player in Conservative circles. |
| 0:48.0 | And now you're... |
| 0:49.0 | It'd be weird for you, won't it? |
| 0:50.5 | Well, last time... |
| 0:51.2 | Because the reform conference is in Birmingham. |
| 0:53.2 | And the last time I was in |
| 0:54.4 | Birmingham was actually for last year's Tory conference, and I defected shortly after the conference, |
| 1:00.8 | and it was... As a result of that experience. |
| 1:04.9 | You were not to do with Birmingham, by the way, but you will remember I was sort of, as soon as I almost regretted it when I said it, |
| 1:14.6 | but when we knew that Kemi Badenock was going to win, I ended one of these podcasts with |
| 1:20.6 | very strong criticisms of her. And it came from the gut, and I thought immediate afterwards, |
| 1:25.7 | that was very strong and perhaps too strong but actually it was |
| 1:29.9 | how I generally felt that it was a culmination of a long gathering period of unhappiness with the |
| 1:35.3 | concerted party so I left the consented party every a number of years and I criticized a number of Tory |
| 1:40.5 | leaders and you know people often said me, the only Tory leader you've |
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