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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Who is the real Keir Starmer? – Ros Taylor asks Tom Baldwin

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 29 February 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Most people know who Keir Starmer is – but don’t know much about his character. Who is the Labour leader really? Tom Baldwin is a journalist, political adviser and author of the newly published Keir Starmer: The Biography. He’s spent time figuring out who the man who’s likely to become the next Prime Minister really is – and joins Ros Taylor in The Bunker to discuss what he’s learned. Buy Keir Starmer: The Biography through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • “He’s complicated like Britain is… and I think the media have largely got him wrong.” – Tom Baldwin • “A lot of politicians like to pretend they like football to make them look normal… Starmer uses football as an anchor to pull him back to normalcy.” – Tom Baldwin • “In politics everyone wants to place you on an ideological spectrum and he doesn’t like that.” – Tom Baldwin Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production: Jade Bailey. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter | TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

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I loved going to college.

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It's good you can retrain and do something.

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Yeah, yeah.

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker you'll need to know on news and politics five days a week. I'm Ros Taylor.

1:14.0

When you ask people what Kiastarma stands for, the answer is most likely to be.

1:19.0

Nothing. Don't know. Not sure.

1:22.0

Or, slightly more hopefully, people. Yet this is the man who, barring a remarkable reversal in the Tories fortunes, will be Prime Minister by next winter. Who is he really and what kind of PM will he be?

1:36.3

Tom Baldwin has written a biography of Starmer and he joins me in the studio.

1:39.7

Hello Tom.

1:40.7

Hello. What did you discover about Kia Starama that you didn't know before?

1:44.0

The big answer is that you can't answer it in three words.

1:48.0

That's why it's taken a book.

1:50.0

He is complicated.

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