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Hey. Hey, hey, where you've been, Buckeye talk is about to begin.

Hey, hey, hey, come on in.

Welcome back to Buckeye Talk. I'm Stephen Krasnick, and that is Andrew Gillis.

And this is another week of the live Buckeye Talk show.

When we're talking Heisman Trophy conversations, and we were going to do this anyway.

And then Stefan, I don't know,

maybe because he's in synergy with the pod, decided to write about Ohio State kind of going out of its

way to get the campaign started for Jeremiah Smith. And so the conversation today is who was

Ohio State's best Heisman trophy candidate and why? And if people have other names on Ohio State's team,

they want to mention, that's fine. But the top three for me were Julian, San, Jeremiah Smith,

and Caleb Downs. Is that it? I don't know. Anybody want to make a case for Arvel Reese,

Austin Sarveld? I mean, I would always love to make the case for Arvel Reese. I do think,

if people think Bain and Miami is in the Heisman conversation, I'm okay with people saying he's better than Arvel Reese. That's fine. I think they're one and two in terms of the best linebackers in the country right now, best defensive players in the country. They're in that conversation. If you think Bain is in the Heisman conversation, I'd probably say, okay, Arvel should be in the Heisman conversation, but I'm also okay with neither of them being in the Heisman conversation. But yeah, that's my, that's my case for Arvel Reese. I think we're forgetting how good he is because some folks at Miami are playing pretty well, too. Any other players, Andrew? I don't know, maybe a little Caden McDonald, little Caden Curry, little Jalen McLean,

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