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Who Is?

Who Is Mark Zuckerberg?

Who Is?

iHeartRadio + NowThis

News, Politics

4.1803 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

There are more than 7 billion people on the planet, and as of this year, nearly 3 billion of them use Facebook or one of the platforms it owns: Instagram, Messenger, and WhatsApp. As a result, the company is massively profitable, which has made Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s co-founder and CEO, one of the most wealthy and powerful human beings in the world. At the helm of this behemoth, Zuckerberg wields a power that, according to legendary investigative journalist Julia Angwin, is unlike any other in history. On this episode of “Who is?,” Sean Morrow confronts Facebook, and the man in charge of the platform on which much of human digital communication occurs, and on which most of the world’s digital community resides. 

  • Julia Angwin, a renowned investigative journalist who has written about tech for the Wall Street Journal, ProPublica, and is now editor in chief of The Markup, which she founded  
  • Sarah Frier, who writes about social media for Bloomberg in San Francisco. She’s the author of “No Filter: The Inside Story of Instagram,” which was published in April of this year 


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0:00.0

Alternate realities exist.

0:04.0

Reality is defined by perception, so whatever or whomever controls perception controls reality.

0:13.0

No, you didn't accidentally tune in to the Joe Rogan experience. This is who is.

0:19.0

I want to talk about a guy in charge of a portal through which

0:22.6

billions of people filter the reality every day. Yeah, it's a real change for a for-profit

0:30.1

company to be governing all of global speech, right? Whatever they decide is what is allowed.

0:36.4

If they say it's okay for the generals in Myanmar to incite, you know, a genocide, then then it goes. And if they say it's not okay for that to happen, then it doesn't happen. And it has anything to do with anyone. No one has any oversight of the U.S. government, the people who are members of Facebook, right?

0:54.2

The citizens who participate in Facebook have no say in that.

0:57.5

I remember when my biggest concern about Facebook was like,

1:00.8

if the girl I had a crush on in math class was going to poke me back.

1:04.4

Now we have to worry about Facebook controlling global free speech.

1:08.3

Beyond the power of the company, power within Facebook is consolidated in the

1:13.4

hands of one man.

1:15.8

It's really, honestly, Mark Zuckerberg himself.

1:19.9

I mean, he has said, I make these important decisions myself, and he has claimed that power

1:26.0

for himself.

1:27.2

And it's a kind of power

1:28.9

that, like, honestly, I don't even know that anyone has ever in history had that kind of power.

1:34.5

I don't know if the U.S. President has had that kind of power. I don't know that, you know,

1:38.1

Caesar had that power when he was ruling the Roman Empire. This ability to decide at any time what speech is allowed in any part of the globe is an unbelievable amount of power.

1:51.0

Zuckerberg's main properties, Facebook and Instagram are portals through which billions of users experience the world.

1:57.5

Filters between people and reality, which alter perception of everything, from human

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