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Talking Feds

Who Is Government, Really? with Michael Lewis

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

Election, Government, January 6, Politics, Merrick Garland, Law, Harry Litman, Trump, News, Legal

4.84.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Harry sits down with Michael Lewis—author of Moneyball and The Fifth Risk—to discuss Who Is Government?, his new book spotlighting the unsung public servants who quietly hold the country together. They trace the project’s roots to Trump’s chaotic transition, explore the GOP-led assault on federal expertise, and ask: Can the damage be undone? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to Talking Fed's One-on-One, Deep-dive discussions with national figures about the most fascinating and consequential issues defining our culture and shaping our lives.

1:21.9

I'm your host, Harry Littman.

1:25.8

Welcome to a special Talking Fed's One-on-One.

1:28.5

I'm thrilled to be with one of the Deans of American letters, a man who has given us a series of deeply reported and masterfully written

1:34.5

portraits of a wide range of aspects of American life, and in the process has emerged as

1:41.2

the premier nonfiction writer of our day.

1:44.8

Michael Lewis's most recent work is entitled, Who is Government?

1:49.4

It's a series of profiles of career federal employees,

1:53.7

some of them doing very high-profile, life-saving work like Jared Kroopman and IRS Cyber Sleuth,

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