meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Coffee House Shots

Who has a winning vision for Labour – Blair, Burnham or Starmer?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

When it comes to political vision, Keir Starmer’s premiership has been something of a vacuum – and power abhors a vacuum. So cue Tony Blair, who this week has rushed in with a 5,000-word essay on what is wrong with Labour and, depending on who you listen to, either an outdated or radical view of where Britain should be as a country.

This has galvanised Andy Burnham, Wes Streeting and (finally) Keir Starmer to put down on paper their vision for the country and how to solve the biggest issues we face. But whose is more convincing?

Oscar Edmondson discusses the question with James Heale and Rachel Wolf, founding partner at Public First and author of the 2019 manifesto.

Produced by Oscar Edmondson. 

Become a Spectator subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to spectator.co.uk/adfree to find out more.


For more Spectator podcasts, go to spectator.co.uk/podcasts.


Contact us: podcast@spectator.co.uk


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Subscribe to The Spectator and get 12 weeks of Britain's most incisive politics coverage, unrivaled books and arts reviews, and so much more, all for just £12.

0:10.0

Not only that, but we'll also send you a £20 Amazon gift card, absolutely free.

0:16.5

Go to www.spictator.com forward slash voucher to claim this offer now.

0:28.6

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm

0:32.8

Oscar Edmondson, I'm joined today by James Heel and Rachel Wolfe, founding partner at Public

0:36.9

First and the author of the 2019 Conservative Manifesto.

0:41.0

So she knows a thing or two about constructing and communicating a political vision, which has been one of the big topics in Westminster this week.

0:48.0

Tony Blair's 5,000-word essay on What's Wrong with Labor has prompted West Streeting Andy Burnham and now Keir Starma to set out their visions for the country. So we thought we'd take them each in turn. But James, can you just start by giving us the broad strokes of Blair's intervention this week? Who's welcomed it and who it's rubbed up the wrong way? Sure. So Tony Blair has written a 5,000 word essay published on his Institute's website. And this is very much him reprising his role as the Cassandra of the Labour Party, earnestly desperately trying to tell his party truths that they do not want to hear and will not listen to. It's the first time he's intervened in a Labour leadership race in 11 years. The last time, of course, was Jeremy Corbyn, which the immediate poll after that showed that it had led to more people in the Labour Party voting for Corbyn than before. So we wait to see how his result does. But basically his attempt

1:31.4

to try and influence the direction of the party. He is saying that this number of different

1:35.4

challenges, the Labour Party is just not fundamentally addressing here. He talks, for instance,

1:39.3

about the need for agenda to encourage the animal spirits of business. He also talks about

1:43.8

migration, which is something

1:44.7

we hear remarkably little from labour figures as we enter the summer with its usual expected

1:49.7

site of multiple boats arriving here. And so, for exactly what he does, he says,

1:54.6

the lot of labour problems started coming from when he left office, surprise, surprise,

1:59.1

2007, and that Labour basically pivoted left after that and

2:02.3

hasn't fundamentally tried to grapple with the issues actually face the economy and actually

2:06.3

retreated very much to its kind of safe space. He's very much an AI optimist, just an AI

2:10.7

will solve some of these problems. And he ended the sort of policy checklist at the end of his

2:15.1

essay talking about how they need to come up with a plan for the NHS, stop the small boats and sort of embrace a sort of any means necessary approach to that specific issue. But really, it's a plea to try and say that Labor shouldn't retreat to what he would consider it to be at sort of left-wing safe space and actually should engage with these issues in a way in which that does encourage business and deals with the truths rather than try and pretend that the world is something it can't be. So AI is a fact of life. It's going to be here today. And they can't wish away problems like that. Yeah, Rachel, just before we go on to the other essays that have been prompted as a result of this, I did want to ask, firstly, what jumped out to you? And secondly, what you think of the people who are suggesting that Tony Blair is effectively a Tory now? I'm afraid I was one of those people. Let me qualify that.

2:56.9

I think Tony Blair was basically always a Tory. And I think his great genius was to be the Tory who

3:02.9

managed to take over Labour, which is the reason he won three elections. And he was just a Tory overseeing

...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 22 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Spectator, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The Spectator and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.