Who Framed Woman-Ochre? w/ Sabrina Wu

Scam Goddess

Earwolf

Comedy, True Crime

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Laci welcomes writer, comedian, and actor Sabrina Wu (Murderbot, Joy Ride) to grab their monocle and magnifying glass and dive into the strange story of Jerry and Rita Alter, a sweet couple from New Mexico who passed away, and may have stolen a $160 million Willem de Kooning painting just to hang it behind their bedroom door. Plus, in Scammer of the Week: a homeowners’ association goes full villain after Irena Green’s lawn turned a little less green and somehow, it ends with her getting arrested. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Sabrina Wu: @asabrinawu Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/09/nyregion/a-de-kooning-a-theft-and-an-enduring-mystery.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/18/arts/de-kooning-higgins-sharp-harwood-fbi.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YE8.GU2s.vAP6jr-Zr2bc&smid=url-share The Thief Collector documentary https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/04/fbi-new-mexico-teachers-alleged-art-thieves https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/hoa-violations-involving-womans-brown-grass-led-to-her-being-arrested-and-jailed-for-seven-days https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2022/09/15/long-lost-willem-de-kooning-painting-makes-its-way-back-arizona/8058998001/ https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/de-kooning-art-theft https://www.scdailypress.com/2024/03/15/california-writer-finds-two-stolen-works-estate-now-famous-cliff-couple/

Transcript

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0:00.0	Scam! Cards, robbery, and fraud.
0:09.0	Scam! Cards, robbery, and fraud.
0:17.0	Scam goddess!
0:19.0	Was popping congregation is your girl Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess, back with another installment
0:24.3	of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
0:28.0	Sometimes we love them.
0:29.2	Sometimes we hate them.
0:30.5	We will see all along the way in congregation OG members, go ahead and stand up.
0:35.9	Yes, you know, it's time for us to get very what?
0:39.0	Yes, excited, thrilled, elated. Get up out of your seat. Stand up in your car, okay, while it's moving.
0:45.4	You can do it. You can do it, okay? My guest today is a multifaceted talent on the show, okay?
0:52.6	And they're absolutely killing it in the game as a writer, comedian, and actor.
0:56.9	They can be seen on Abbott Elementary, Joyride,
0:59.1	and can be seen alongside Alexander Scarsgard on Apple TV's Murder Buy.
1:03.9	And that show is popping right now.
1:06.2	And hot, hot, hot, they are a writer for FX's breakout series, Dying for Sex.
1:12.6	This person is very busy, y'all.
1:14.3	Congregation, please welcome Sabrina Wu.
1:16.3	Hi, Sabrina.
1:17.2	Hi, Lacey.
1:19.4	Hi, everybody.
1:20.8	Thank you for taking the time out of your multiple, multiple jobs to do the podcast.
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