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This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske, Stacey Cole and Todd Michaels.

Well, and keep in mind how stupid are you?

I mean, you're in law enforcement and you think just destroying your phone is going to take care of everything.

Can we have an intellectual test here?

Because if that's what you think, you're not very good at your job.

You're not paying attention.

I mean, you're 100% right. but the reality is if you destroy the evidence,

you've destroyed the evidence. Yeah. If you're, think about it from the perspective,

if you're a cop and you know that your carrier after 30 days is not going to be able to produce the actual messages themselves.

They'll obviously be able to show that a text went from this number to this number

or was received from this number to this number.

But in terms of the actual context of the text themselves,

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