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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Who Do We Owe?

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Education, Business, Investing, How To

4.5811 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Don and Tom tackle fears about U.S. national debt by breaking down who actually owns it (mostly Americans), why “China owns us” is wildly overstated, and why rising interest costs matter more than sensational headlines. They explain why government debt isn’t a looming foreclosure scenario, how interest payments circulate back to investors, and why politics often distorts financial decision-making. The show also covers 60/40 portfolio resilience, the real role of bonds, listener questions on AVGE and DFAW, investing simplicity, and a nostalgic detour into Spam keys and Mad Men—ending with encouragement for disciplined, long-term investing. 0:05 National debt fears and the “Mr. Potter foreclosing America” analogy 0:27 Holiday movies, Home Alone sequels, and It’s a Wonderful Life 1:13 Who really owns U.S. debt and why it matters 2:50 Japan, UK, and China holdings explained 4:02 Why foreign selling wouldn’t crash the economy 5:13 Most U.S. debt is owned domestically 5:31 Interest payments now exceeding military spending 6:18 What debt interest really costs households 7:19 Why investors shouldn’t panic over government debt 8:15 Politics vs. rational investing decisions 9:55 Debt, taxes, and what society is willing to give up 11:28 Historical tax rates and Mad Men economics 12:37 Military spending and post-WWII budgets 13:22 60/40 portfolios and market downturn protection 14:43 Worst historical declines for balanced portfolios 16:37 Long-term resilience of diversified investing 17:51 Bonds: income vs. volatility control 19:08 Spam keys, Hormel, and changing industries 20:52 AVGE, DFAW, and Apella portfolio structure 22:29 Simplicity vs. complexity in investing 23:47 Podcast longevity and download estimates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're talking real money.

0:40.5

All right.

0:42.3

Here's the deal.

0:43.2

I know.

0:43.6

We're in debt.

0:44.6

United States is we owe a lot of money.

0:48.1

And we owe it to, I don't know who, we owe it to a lot of people.

0:52.6

We're going to talk about who we owe it to.

0:54.4

But here's the thing.

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