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Analysis

Who Decides if I'm a Woman?

Analysis

BBC

News, Politics

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2013

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

A spat between feminist Suzanne Moore and transgender rights activists played out on social networking sites, and then hit the headlines when journalist Julie Burchill joined in too.

Jo Fidgen explores the underlying ideas which cause so much tension between radical feminists and transgender campaigners, and discovers why recent changes in the law and advances in science are fuelling debate.

Contributors:

James Barrett, consultant psychiatrist and lead clinician at the Charing Cross National Gender Identity Clinic

Julie Bindel, feminist and journalist

Lord Alex Carlile QC, Liberal Democrat member of the House of Lords

Melissa Hines, professor of psychology at Cambridge University

Richard O'Brien, writer of the Rocky Horror Show

Ruth Pearce, postgraduate researcher in sociology at the University of Warwick

Stephen Whittle OBE, professor of equalities law at Manchester Metropolitan University

Producer: Ruth Alexander.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.7

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0:29.7

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0:36.0

You're listening to a program from BBC Radio 4.

0:40.0

In this edition of Analysis, Joe Fijon asks, who decides if I'm a woman?

0:45.0

It's a pretty safe bet that you're a man or a woman.

0:49.0

Isn't it?

0:50.0

Gender queer, gender fluid, androgynous, bi-gender.

0:55.0

Who decides whether we are men or women?

0:59.0

Is it the midwife who, you know, has a quick glance.

1:03.0

I've seen four children be bored.

1:05.0

I know how quick that glance is.

1:06.0

You know, you've got a girl.

1:08.0

Well, how do you know we've got a girl?

1:09.0

You've not done anything but a quick glance.

1:11.0

Transvestite, transgenderist.

1:14.0

I believe myself probably to be about 70% male, 30% female.

1:20.0

Third gender, pangender. 70% male, 30% female.

1:26.0

That's Richard O'Brien, by the of sexual propriety of the time into the air

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