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🗓️ 29 July 2017
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Why is it OK to be gay in the UK but not in Zambia? In 1967, a turning point for the gay rights movement in the UK, England and Wales decriminalised sex between men. Fifty years on, four out of five British people say they have no problem with homosexuality. Yet it remains a taboo and a crime in many former British colonies, including Zambia. What brought about the change in the UK and why it has not happened in Zambia, which largely inherited the British legal system?
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0:00.0 | How do you feel about homosexuality? Ever thought about why you feel that way? |
0:08.0 | Hello, I'm Joe Fijon and we've got an hour to talk about how social attitudes are formed and how they're changed. |
0:16.5 | Not about whether homosexuality is right or wrong, but who makes that call? |
0:22.4 | Who decides if gay is okay? We're going to compare the UK and |
0:28.1 | Zambia which used to share a law against homosexual conduct but which are |
0:32.4 | gone in very different directions |
0:34.0 | over the past 50 years. Take Maria for example, not her real name. So where I come |
0:40.3 | from the UK her story begins like a love story where I used to work and |
0:46.3 | where Maria lives Zambia it's a criminal offense. |
0:50.0 | I was really excited I was finally in a relationship with a female and it was so I really just |
0:56.4 | went to tell the whole world you know that I was so excited so I was always |
1:00.7 | putting her pictures on my Facebook and I think at some point we had even put a relationship status and the name was literally there on Facebook. |
1:11.6 | We'll call Maria's girlfriend, Nemo. |
1:14.2 | You might hear her in the background. |
1:15.9 | So my step-up came across that. |
1:18.0 | She told my dad, and that's how it just blew out. |
1:21.6 | And how did your family treat you after that? |
1:23.7 | Oh, wow. |
1:26.4 | It was bad, to be honest. |
1:28.6 | It was bad. |
1:40.4 | My father used a lot of methods to try and cure me. He tried to freeze the homosexuality out of me. I don't know how that was going to work, but he has to try to freeze to freeze me. |
1:45.6 | He... |
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