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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the spectators' daily politics podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by James O'Cythe and Katie Bulls.

So today, the leader of the S&P in Westminster, Ian Blackford, has stepped down.

James, where does this resignation come from?

So I think Ian Blackford has stepped down because it appeared that his internal critics

in the Westminster group had enough votes to oust him. I think there are kind of free issues here.

One is that Ian Blackford is, you know, generationally older than lots of the S&S MPs.

He, you know, comes from not going to finance background. I think some people feel that he's

too paly with the Tories, even if he could have heckled him and the Chamber, you know, but they're

too friendly. And then I think there is also a further issue here, which is I think that he has

in kind of S&P style on a very tight ship, Joanna Sherry, who most people consider to be one of the

most able S&P parliamentarians here. She has had a very diminished role at Westminster because

she was a kind of critic of Nicholas Sturgeon, critic on gender, self-ID. So I think this is,

I think this represents the beginnings of someone unhappiness in the S&P. And it obviously

comes at a difficult time for the S&P after the Supreme Court unanimously rejected the Scottish

government in the S&P's case for why Hollywood should be allowed to legislate for an independence

referendum without Westminster's consent. Katie, looking over Blackford's years as Westminster

leader for the S&P, what do you think he was an effective voice for the S&P in Westminster?

Well, he's certainly been a source of comedy for those on the opposite benches. And I think

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