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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics, power, and prejudices.

This year, 2024, is an election year in America, a presidential election year.

And so we will be doing two podcasts a week, rather than our usual one, because we want to,

and because we know you can't get enough Americano in your life.

I am delighted to be joined today by Guy Benson, who is host of the Guy Benson show on Fox News. And Guy, we were going to talk about Trump's possible vice presidential

nominees, but some news has broken today about the debates that I think we should talk about

first,

the presidential debates.

There will, of course, be vice presidential debates too.

It's been speculated a lot that Joe Biden was going to duck them because he so obviously

isn't with it is a bit frail and doddery.

But then earlier this week he said, came out sort of fighting

saying, you know, I can do it on challenging Trump. And then it turns out he has suggested two

dates to Trump, one in June and September, correct me if I'm wrong. And Trump has promptly accepted.

So the debates are on. What do you think?

Well, it's a bit of a surprise to a lot of people because there was a strain of thought

that there would be maybe one debate this cycle or zero. There were only two last time,

and COVID had something to do with that, plus the vice presidential debate, but there

was kind of a sense that Joe Biden probably didn't want to debate if he felt comfortable in his

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