Bodie, good to see you, brother.

You as well.

Man, one of the things I always loved about when we would hang is, I mean, you were the best

in the game.

You were a fucking savage.

You would get it.

And at the same time, you were always thinking about the world in your own unique way.

And you were not in any way shut off to what might be called the spiritual

aspects of the world or the non-physical dimensionality of things and that was like such a

refreshing thing for me because I had basically placed those two things in a category either you

perform and achieve or you're out there listening to what the trees are going

to tell you and like listening to what the energy of the rocks are and thinking about the

philosophy of things.

Like I remember some of your competitors, you know, they're a little more simple.

Yeah, pretty linear.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't think they're inherent.

Actually, I think at the best level, they are totally integrated because one actually

feeds the other and vice versa.

I think they can really amplify them.

I think that's one of the reasons why you were, you know, one of the best that ever lived.

Yeah, it's come up a bunch is because if you look at my raw material that I was

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