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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Who Broke the Internet? with Tim Wu

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

NBCNews

News, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2018

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

From the rise of fake news and the troll farms pumping it out to the harvesting of our Facebook data by groups like Cambridge Analytica, Chris Hayes knows the internet feels pretty crappy these days. In this episode, Hayes examines how something once seen as a miracle of human connection became a free-for-all frenzy to get your clicks, and marvels at the lengths companies will go to keep your eyes to your screens. These are the ideas Tim Wu has spent a career, and two books, exploring. So, when we ask what created the conditions for this environment and angst surrounding our experience with the internet, we turn to Tim.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Why does the visceral experience of the internet feel so bad?

0:03.6

Today you wonder off like the safe pass of the internet and it's like a trap

0:09.5

You know you click on the wrong thing suddenly like 50 pop-ups come up something says

0:13.6

Hey, you've been infected with a virus click here to fix it

0:16.1

Which of course if you do click on it does infect you with a virus and you have to kind of turn constantly control yourself

0:21.4

You have to be on guard. It's a mixture of being in a bad neighborhood and a used car sales place and a casino

0:30.0

And a like infectious disease ward all combined into one and that is not relaxing

0:39.2

Welcome to why is this happening with me your host Chris A's

0:45.6

I was born 1979 and I think I got my first computer

0:48.8

I want to say when I was seven or eight, which was an MS doc computer that used to play loadrunner on which is an amazing game

0:56.1

The best part of loadrunner was that you could make your own loadrunner boards, but you can make loadrunner boards

1:02.5

That's oh man. I'm gonna get off this microphone and go upstairs and play loadrunner

1:10.0

So I had that computer and then and then I my first like real Windows computer

1:15.0

Which is a pen had a Pentium chip in it. I remember I spent like a year researching it to convince my parents to buy it and got this computer

1:22.2

I want to say when I was 12 or 13 so 1999 well 1992

1:26.0

And I did something then because I had become a real computer nerd that was bold which was that rather than use

1:32.5

AOL or Prodigy or any of the other online services that were available at the time

1:37.2

I convinced my parents to sign up for what I think of the times called netcom

1:41.8

Which was TCP IP protocol whereby you got like the actual raw internet

1:48.8

Meaning you could use use net which were message boards and you could use a browser

1:55.5

Which was mosaic to browse what was called the world wide web

2:00.9

Before mosaic there was that all text browser called links that I used to use and I can still see myself

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