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Death, Sex & Money

Who Are Your 'Quick And Deep' Friends?

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2020

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

A conversation with a psychologist about the importance of friends who cross racial lines—and those who don't. Want to reflect on how race has factored into your friendships? Take our survey at deathsexmoney.org/friendship. Afterward, you can see how other people have responded to the survey questions, and we'll also send you a recommended reading list. And, as always, you can sign up for our newsletter by going to deathsexmoney.org/newsletter. Every Wednesday we'll send you behind-the-scenes updates, podcast listening recommendations, and some pretty incredible listener letters from our inbox. Follow our show on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram @deathsexmoney. Got a story to share? Email us any time at [email protected].

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Anna. Last week we partnered with the NPR Podcast Code Switch to bring you two episodes

0:11.9

all about race and friendship. how race has come up in your

0:14.9

friendships, what happened next, and why it can be so challenging to make and maintain cross-racial

0:21.3

friendships.

0:22.5

If you haven't heard those episodes yet, definitely go back and take a listen.

0:26.4

We also put out a survey for all of you to take about how race has factored into your friendships. You can find it at death sex money.org

0:34.6

slash friendship. More than a thousand of you have taken that survey so far and

0:38.9

we've gotten some really interesting responses and we've also heard from some of you that taking the survey has felt a little ill-fitting, that

0:47.0

answering questions about the number of friends you have outside your race makes it feel like

0:52.2

it's a survey designed for white people because

0:54.6

for some of you that's the reality of moving through majority white spaces as a

0:59.1

person of color. So we wanted to talk through some of your responses with Dr. Deborah Plummer, a psychologist

1:04.7

and professor who studied cross-racial friendships and written about it in several books.

1:09.3

Her latest is called Some of my Friends are the daunting challenges and untapped benefits of cross-racial

1:16.4

friendships.

1:17.4

Dr. Plummer is on the phone with me now.

1:18.8

Hello, Dr. Plummer.

1:19.8

Hello.

1:21.2

Hello. Hello.

1:22.2

So I want to talk with you about some of these daunting challenges and untapped benefits.

1:26.4

That's something we heard from our listeners when we were hearing stories about race and friendship.

1:31.4

And I want to know first how you came to research this cross-racial

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