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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots,

Spectators Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Isabel Harman and I'm joined by James

Forsyth and Katie Bulls. Well, it's been a mix night in the local elections.

The Conservatives have as predicted, made losses.

Labour have won a number of London councils for the first time in decades,

including Wandsworth and Westminster. They've also done well in the New

Cumberland Council. But in other seats it's been a little bit less exciting for the Labour Party

and Tory Chairman Oliver Dowden has been touring the airwaves trying to explain why this is not

as bad a result as it might seem. This is what he had to say this morning.

If you look at what's happened across the piece in London over the past 20 years,

it has been the case that we have lost vote share. If you look at Wandsworth,

past 20 years we've been losing vote share. We only clung on by two hundred votes.

If you look across the rest of the country, you take, for example, Thurak, which

I'd rather talk about. Labour have controlled for the past 30 years.

The bloke had gone to bed and he won. I think they're down to about five seats.

I accepted at the top of this interview that we had difficult results in London,

but I do think you have to look at the picture across the board.

Katie, what kind of picture do you think we're all seeing this morning?

Well, Claire, we're still getting results in, so we don't have the full picture.

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