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DINESH Podcast

WHO ARE THE FASCISTS?

DINESH Podcast

Salem Podcast Network

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.76.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2021

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this special episode, Dinesh devotes the full hour to an in-depth discussion on fascism and civil war with one of America's preeminent historians, Stanley Payne. An emeritus professor of history at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, Payne is the author of "A Short History of Fascism" and "The Spanish Civil War."  Dinesh engages Payne in a wide-ranging discussion of such questions as, what is the core meaning of fascism? Is fascism on the Right or on the Left? Are there fascist strains in America today?  What are the factors that led up to the Spanish civil war, and are there parallels between Spain then and America now?  Is America headed toward civil strife?  What lessons can we learn from history on how to resist fascism and avoid civil war?

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0:00.0

We see growing trends of centralization, suppression, censorship in America today.

0:08.0

Are we devolving toward some kind of tyranny, fascism, civil war?

0:15.0

In this special episode, I bring on one of the world's leading authorities on fascism.

0:20.0

Professor Stanley Payne to discuss these issues, not just historically, but also apply them to America today.

0:28.0

This is the Dineshtus Oozha podcast.

0:59.0

We see very disturbing trends all around us.

1:03.0

These are trends, by the way, that conservatives warned about before the election.

1:10.0

We said very emphatically that bad things would happen if Biden was elected.

1:15.0

Bad things would happen if the Democrats maintained a grip on both houses of Congress.

1:21.0

That what we would see is not merely an expansion of the centralized state.

1:26.0

Not just economic confiscation, higher tax rates, more regulation, a kind of stifling of the economy.

1:34.0

But we would see encroachment into civil liberties, greater and greater threats to basic rights, free speech, freedom of religion, now even due process.

1:46.0

We would also begin to see an attack on our basic institutions, an effort to weaken institutions that provide any kind of resistance to the state, and coordinate the other institutions of the state, of society, the media, academia, Hollywood.

2:07.0

But even an effort to whip the corporate sector into line, a sports team into line, the aggression of the left seems to know no bounds.

2:16.0

You think they would be content with saying, well, listen, we got the universities, we got Hollywood, what do we care about?

2:22.0

The NFL or the skating team, but they do care.

2:26.0

They want to establish this harmony across the whole society.

2:31.0

Now, the Nazis at a term for this, Gleikschelthong, a coordination.

2:37.0

And we see, I think, in the left today some strong hints of not Nazism, but fascism, fascism.

2:46.0

And yet that term is so highly contested. We've got this group Antifa, Antifa, so the branding themselves as fighting fascism, and yet you have to look around there, where are the fascists that they are fighting?

2:58.0

So what do these terms even mean? What is fascism?

3:03.0

Now, when I get into this with various pundits on social media, you have people like the historian Kevin Cruz, who don't know, should understand fascism at all.

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