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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

Find out what happened when and, you know, what orders were given.

I think all the particulars you want to know what the facts are.

And then you want to compare that with the relevant and figure out um you know procedurally uh you know what's the um you know the correct lawful way to do things and determine whether or not that everything was followed

of course we're talking about the second strike on the boat.

Turns out second, third, and fourth, maybe strikes on the boat.

Off the coast of Venezuela and whether or not Pete Hegzeth ordered or not.

And exactly what was ordered when by whom and whether it was legal,

it's worth noting that voice you heard was Senator John Thune the republican leader of the senate uh the very latest is from the new york times citing five

u.s officials today that hegseth called for the original strike but did not specify what

should happen if survivors remained and then admiral frank br Bradley, who you've now heard his name a lot,

ultimately signed off on the initial strike and several follow-up strikes that killed 11 people.

Okay, interesting.

To gain a little perspective, we've invited on the terrific Mike Lyons military analyst,

who is also, I was happy to see writing for real clear defense, including a great piece about the possible Ukraine deal, which we'll touch on in a minute. But first, Mike, welcome. How are you? Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for having me back. Trust you and the family had a great Thanksgiving. Good to talk to you. Yeah, it was good. I didn't have my son home and my daughter home, but hopefully we'll get him at Christmas time at this point, so I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. On to that part of life, yeah. So, Mike, let's talk a little bit about your impressions of the, you know, what is known thus far about the alleged targeting of survivors. What do you think? Yeah. You know, so I've worded this story for a while

because I just thought of it as 100% politics, that video that was released, I guess, no, 10 days

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