Hi, this is Grant Cameron and you're listening to That UFO podcast.

Hi, everyone, Andy here with a very quick disclaimer before the podcast starts. Nothing too exciting.

In the first couple of minutes, you might hear a little bit of banging in the background on Whitley's

end. Someone had come in and started doing some work very close by. A little

bit of hammering happens now and again. I've cleaned it up as best I can and got rid of it.

You won't hear too much of it, but it does disappear after about 12 minutes completely. It

doesn't happen again. So just in case in the first couple of minutes, you hear the odd little

sound. You may not have noticed it, you might now.

But yeah, I've sorted it out.

But anyway, over to the podcast and Whitley Streber.

Hi, everyone, and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy, and my guest today is an experiencer and author.

His work includes some of the best best known books in the UFO conversation,

including the internationally acclaimed communion, them, and his latest work, The Fourth Mind.

Welcome back to the podcast, Mr. Whitley Streber.

Well, I'm glad to be back. It's always fun to talk to you. You're a really good interviewer.

I hope so, Whitley. Thank you. Hopefully

you enjoy this and lots of interest from the listeners as well. And the time we've got together,

I'd love to try and get to some of their questions that have been sent in. So thank you to

everyone who showed an interest as well. When Whitley comes on, there's a lot of questions get sent

over. But Whitley, we've

been on together three or four times now discussing your previous work, and we're going to

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