Whitewashing History Highlights the Importance of Church-State Separation
Freethought Radio
Freedom From Religion Foundation
4.6 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 18 September 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
We celebrate a court victory in Arkansas, where a federal court issued a second preliminary injunction blocking a state law requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms. We criticize a "faith-based disaster recovery event" at the National Mall in which Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner proclaimed that "faith is back in our government." We speak with Rep. Mark Pocan about the whitewashing of history in the wake of Christian nationalist Charlie Kirk's murder and the ever-growing importance of the separation between church and state.
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| 2:28.0 | second half of today's show, we're going to speak with Mark Pocan, a member of the Congressional Free Thought Caucus. |
| 2:36.4 | He's a U.S. representative right here from the state of Wisconsin. |
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