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All right, welcome to the Carl Jackson show. This is your daily dose of objective truth in the world of confusion and lies.

Guys, I have been of the opinion, and perhaps my guests will talk me off the cliff, that HBCU should be abolished.

I do not think they're effective.

I don't think they're needed anymore.

I think obviously there's not a lot of DEI going on on those college campuses. Overwhelmingly,

there's women on the campuses. Overwhelmingly, there are blacks on the campuses. The numbers are

very disproportionate. I wonder, frankly, and I hate to say this, but just speaking the truth,

I wonder if many blacks are getting the best education possible because they're not challenged or they're not competing against enough or, in my opinion, other ethnicity.

So anyway, my guess literally went to the campus of Tennessee State University on the Fearless Debates Tour.

You guys saw the videos with both he and Cam Higbee that went viral last weekend.

And they weren't treated very kindly at Tennessee State University in HBCU after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

So I want to go right to my guest, David, welcome to the program. And, man,

I straight up, I applaud your courage. Thank you so much, Carl. I appreciate it.

So, okay, so walk us through this because I got to be honest with you, David. Most people,

you're talking about

an HBCU, you go to that HBCU and there were a couple of signs that you guys were holding up

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