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White House threatens mass federal firings if Congress fails to avoid a shutdown

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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The White House is threatening to use a looming government shutdown to permanently hollow out federal agencies. It comes with the funding deadline, which lawmakers appear almost certain to miss, just days away. Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins and White House correspondent Liz Landers report on the latest. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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Welcome to the News Hour. The White House is threatening to use a looming government shutdown to drive

0:31.1

mass layoffs at federal agencies. And that's with the funding deadline that lawmakers

0:35.3

appear almost certain to miss just days away.

0:38.9

Our congressional correspondent, Lisa Desjardin and White House correspondent, Liz Landers, are here with the latest.

0:44.2

So Liz, we'll start with you last night, the OMB director, Russ Vote.

0:48.0

He told agencies to prepare shutdown plans that include permanent layoffs.

0:52.2

What more do we know?

0:53.2

We obtained this memo late last night.

0:54.9

It was sent over by the Office of Management and Budget. And in it, it says that they are

0:59.2

preparing for a potential shutdown. And some of this is normal. And they've had some planning calls,

1:05.2

apparently about this this week. And there's some politics in here, some finger pointing that the

1:09.5

administration is doing at Democrats in

1:11.4

particular, saying that they are inching closer to a shutdown over a series of insane demands,

1:17.0

including a trillion dollars in new spending. But this note goes farther. And what it suggests

1:22.4

is that the agencies could use this moment to do mass layoffs. It says agencies are directed to use this opportunity

1:29.6

to consider reduction in force. And as you know, Jeff, this agent, this administration,

1:35.2

I should say, has really relied on these RIF notices, these reduction in force mechanisms

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