Welcome to Democracy-ish. I am Danielle Moody.

And I'm with Jahat Ali.

And we are so excited to welcome to Democracy-ish for the very first time professor, Anthea Butler,

who is the Geraldine R. Siegel Professor in American Social Thought and Chair of Religious Studies

at the University of Pennsylvania, an author of the book, White Evangelical Racism,

The Politics of Morality in America.

She is a big deal.

Oh, wow.

Thank you all.

I'm not sure I'm a big deal, but, you know, the book is a big deal.

To be a chair, to be a chair of a department?

You know, the chairman of just that tiny university. Yeah, yeah.

You Penn? This up and coming university. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, you know, that, that, you know, Professor Butler, thanks so much for joining us.

And, you know, you were supposed to be with us earlier.

But thankfully, you got the booster shot, which everyone, if you're listening, please get the booster shot.

This booster shot apparently protects you from the latest variant.

It protects you from the breakthroughs.

Please get it. There's still a pandemic, despite what other people say. And I hope you don't mind

me sharing, Professor Butler, but like me, whenever you get a shot, you get knocked the F out.

Yes, I do. And I was knocked the F out. We were supposed to tape. And I was sleeping through

like Rip Van Winkle and just, you know,

wake up like, wow, it's still light outside. I probably didn't sleep that long, three hours.

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