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The Brian Lehrer Show

White-Collar Workers Unite!

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Noam Scheiber talks about the conditions leading young college-education workers to lead unionization efforts.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. Are you in a union?

0:16.1

Ten years ago, that question was mostly for auto workers, teachers, electricians, some others, but something

0:23.7

has shifted. It's not just where people are organizing. It's who. When we think of union members,

0:30.4

maybe you picture workers on a factory line or longshoremen at a shipping port, but nowadays,

0:36.9

union members wear Apple store T-shirts and white doctors lab coats.

0:42.5

Yes, even some doctors are unionizing.

0:45.0

Baristas, video game designers, Hollywood writers, and even resident doctors, yes, have decided

0:51.9

to unionize.

0:53.4

Noam Scheiber is a labor reporter at the New York Times,

0:56.1

and his new book, Mutiny, The Rise and Revolt of the College-educated working class,

1:01.8

is about the generation of college graduates who were promised a certain kind of life,

1:06.1

or so they thought, didn't get it, and decided to do something about it at work.

1:11.9

Noam, it's been a minute.

1:12.8

Welcome back to WNYC.

1:14.8

Yeah, thanks for having me.

1:16.0

Great to be here.

1:17.0

There are many places we could enter, but let me enter here.

1:20.1

You described the first half of 2022 as the most significant moment in U.S. labor history

1:26.6

in the last 40 years. Why the first half of

1:30.4

2022? Yeah, well, we just had this explosion of union organizing among people who didn't typically

1:38.6

try to organize a union and at companies that were not unionized. So this kind of starts in the fall of 21, actually,

1:46.3

with a few Starbucks stores in Buffalo,

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