White Collar Workers are Radicalizing with Noam Scheiber

Factually! with Adam Conover

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4.6 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

For nearly two decades, prospects for college graduates have been dwindling. The worth of a degree has suffered greatly, and it’s become increasingly clear that college grads suffer many of the same hardships as those seeking employment without degrees. With this change, there’s been a push to the left as well as a new level of organization in industries that previously had been without unions. This week, Adam talks to New York Times reporter Noam Scheiber, author of Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class, about the shift in value of the college degree and the shift in values of the college-educated. Find Noam's book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast.
0:05.0	I don't know the truth.
0:08.3	I don't know the way.
0:10.9	I don't know what to think.
0:13.6	I don't know what to say.
0:16.6	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:19.4	That's okay.
0:21.6	I don't know anything.
0:27.4	Hey there.
0:28.1	Welcome to Factually.
0:29.0	I'm Adam McConnell.
0:29.6	Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.
0:32.2	You know, there's a familiar slander that right-wingers or those who are allied with corporate power like to use against
0:38.9	anyone who's trying to improve conditions for others, especially in the Trump era. They say that the
0:43.7	left or those who are fighting for working people are actually just a bunch of rich out-of-touch
0:49.2	elites, a bunch of college graduates who majored in woke, drink rosé at brunch, and are hopelessly naive
0:55.8	when it comes to understanding what real working people need or want.
1:00.7	But, you know, this is bullshit and it is breaking down across the country because the world
1:07.9	has recently gotten worse for college graduates, just like it's gotten worse for
1:12.5	everybody else. I mean, yes, there are advantages to having a college degree, but those
1:17.9	advantages have been dwindling in the face of soaring student debt and declining employment
1:23.2	prospects in white-collar work across the country. Even developers, computer programmers have
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