And lo and behold, if you go in and kill a bunch of the sod grass, in most cases, he's basically said,

rarely do you ever need to plant anything to develop high quality brood cover?

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You know, we're on the heels now of a couple of episodes with Dr. Craig Harper,

who did a fantastic job going into explaining implementation, particularly a brooding cover.

Man, you know what?

Those episodes are dense. They are. I have listened to them multiple times. Yeah. And I mean, I even, there were a couple people that commented, I think, on one of the reels that we posted highlighting, you know, some clips on Instagram. And they said, you know, several listeners said that they had done the same thing and they were taking notes on the episode.

And I commented and said that I've listened to him multiple times. And that's not an exaggeration.

Yeah.

Because there were some things that Craig shared that I had never heard from him before in spite of the fact that you and I both talked to him on a regular basis.

And I wanted to incorporate that into my management toolbox.

Yeah, and working with Craig for years like we have, you know, he's so knowledgeable.

And I really have kind of looked to him and John Grouchy.

They're the guys that I look at for field stuff.

They know it.

They've got a lot of experience on really cool work on it, you know, research-wise,

and I have over the years tried to pick their brain just over and over about it.

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