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Welcome back to the Packaday podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. Thanks so much for joining me today. I was just about to hit record on today's episode. When a notification rolls through on my phone, Jim Leonard will be leaving the Wisconsin Badgers. No, this is not a Wisconsin Badgers podcast, but you might know where I'm going with this. For those of you who are thinking that

maybe just maybe a certain defensive coordinator in Green Bay may not be in Green Bay next year.

And for those of you who remember that Jim Leonard was seemingly and apparently and

reportedly the frontrunner for the defensive coordinator position when Joe Barry did get the job,

maybe, just maybe, although Jim Leonard is leaving the Wisconsin Badgers at the end of this

season after the bowl game, maybe he ends up staying

in Wisconsin and becoming the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator after all.

I don't have too much more to say on it, to be honest, we've got a long way to go until that

point.

If you're looking for hope that maybe Leonard could be the defensive coordinator, I think the positive here, if you're hopeful,

would be that he's coaching the defense for the Badgers through their bowl game. So if he were

to leave right now, a lot of college options would potentially open up for him and he would

immediately be able to start looking for jobs, which to some extent he still will.

But it means that he probably will not have a job lined up at least until after the Badgers

Bull game, which could mean that Green Bay, once they're eliminated, likely at the end of the regular

season, that well, just frankly, he could still be available at that point, right?

Which may not be the case as soon as the Badgers hired, you know, Fickle as their head coach,

if Leonard was just, I'm done and I start searching for jobs, he might have had a job by the time

the Packers were, you know, even considering looking at another defensive coordinator.

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