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Pod Save the World

Where Will Trump Invade Next?

Pod Save the World

Crooked Media

News, Politics

4.8 • 24.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Tommy and Ben discuss: the fallout from the Trump administration’s strikes on Venezuela and kidnapping of President Nicolás Maduro, why President Trump chose Maduro’s VP Delcy Rodríguez to run the country instead of opposition leader María Corina Machado, how the DOJ’s new indictment of Maduro shows that the administration has been lying about him being the head of a drug cartel, and the comparisons between the Venezuela operation and the 1989 invasion of Panama to arrest Manuel Noriega. Then they dig into the (unfortunately named) “Donroe Doctrine” and what Trump’s embrace of regime change means for the world, including how seriously we should take his threats against Mexico, Colombia, Cuba, and Greenland. Finally, they explain why Iranians have been protesting in huge numbers for over a week, how serious of a threat the protests pose to the regime, and debate whether we should take seriously Trump’s threat to respond militarily if the regime kills protesters. Then Ben speaks to Representative Joaquin Castro (D-TX) about President Trump’s lack of transparency to Congress about the attack on Venezuela, how much it’s costing American taxpayers, and how Democrats are trying to stop him from future invasions.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to POTS Day of the World. I'm Tommy Vitor. I'm Ben Rhodes.

0:13.8

Ben, happy January 6th, fifth year anniversary. It feels like just yesterday, you and I were rampaging through the Capitol.

0:21.3

Yeah.

0:22.1

Shits behind Pelosi's desk or whatever we were doing with that. Still haven't found my pence.

0:25.7

Yeah. We've been looking for that guy for finding. Still can't identify him.

0:29.6

We recorded POTS of America yesterday. We had a whole like editorial meeting to think about like

0:33.9

what else we should cover besides Venezuela. Notuela not one of us even it didn't even

0:40.0

occur to us that the episode was going to be coming out on the january 6th anniversary maybe that's

0:44.7

is that a good thing i don't know and that's probably probably not a good thing it's probably not a good thing

0:48.3

yeah meanwhile i got between our last podcast and this one i got like this devastating flu. So I was basically like hallucinating

0:56.8

through the first 48 hours of the post-Moduro Venezuela regime. But I'm here. I'm on the mend,

1:03.1

Tommy. This is your, this is your Jordan flu game. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not there in person,

1:07.0

though, but you don't want this. Ben's healing himself exclusively with essential oils,

1:11.5

like any good LA West Sider. I did my own research. I did my own research. You got a bunch of home cures. Yeah. Well, you look good. I'm glad you feel better. The flu is the absolute worst. I got a flu shot over the break. I went with my three-year-old to the pediatrician and I had to show her that I was brave and get the flu shot first, which did not feel great, to be honest with you.

1:29.2

Then she got it.

1:29.7

And then we got ice cream. And I let her eat the ice cream before we had lunch. So it was honestly, you know, that's a, that's a, that's a, you know, my kids are older and it still works. Ice cream still works. Chocolate sprinkles, baby. All right, we got a great show today. We're going to focus just on three big topics.

1:46.5

So the first is the latest from Venezuela. We're going to talk about the backstory about how Trump got from negotiations to invasion, why he genocent opposition leader Maria Machado and embraced Delci Rodriguez, who is Maduro's handpicked vice president. Then we're going to go deeper on

2:01.6

the so-called Dunrow Doctrine. We're going to explore what Trump's newfound love for regime change

2:06.5

and expansionist foreign policy at gunpoint might mean for the world. So that's a fun one for

2:11.2

everyone to figure out. And then finally, we're going to cover these massive protests that we've

2:15.3

seen in Iran for well over a week now that appear to pose the

2:19.5

most serious threat to the regime since, I know, probably 2009, Ben. I mean, 2022 were the last

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