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So this week, the jury is set to hear closing arguments in the people of New York versus Donald Trump.

With three other cases pending against the former president in various courts

and various levels of disarray, it's easy to forget what a big deal this is. No sitting president

or former president has faced criminal charges before. No serious presidential candidate has

faced prosecution in the middle of a campaign. My guest today is Caitlin Polance. She's the senior reporter for

crime and justice and been helping us keep track of all this. Caitlin, welcome to the assignment.

Thanks for having me. I'm going to just go right to the case that we've been talking about for

weeks and weeks and weeks, which is closing arguments beginning tomorrow in the Stormy Daniels Michael Cohen

hush money trial case and the thing about this case that everyone has noted is

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