from WNYC studios.

I'm Brian Lerer.

This is my daily politics podcast.

It's Wednesday, April 24th.

This is a day off in the Trump HushMoney trial, and we'll break down the evidence so far with Politico reporter Erica Orden, who's been in the Trump Hush Money trial, and we'll break down the evidence so far with political reporter Erica

Orden, who's been in the courtroom for the opening arguments and the start of the first witness,

David Pecker, former publisher of the National Enquirer, who had this deal with Trump to make up

fake news stories about his opponents in 2016 and to catch and kill, as they call it,

stories from women alleging sexual encounters with Trump.

The court has also released data about the jurors, about their media diets, without naming names, of course,

but it's where these jurors say they get their news. And it's really

interesting and surprising in some ways. One spoiler, one of the jurors cited WNYC as one of their

sources of news, but it's interesting what else that juror takes in. We'll get to that. Again,

Erica Orden, reporter for Politico is our guest. Erica, always good to have you on.

Thanks for taking some of this day off from the courtroom to be with us. Welcome back to WNYC.

Of course. Thank you for having me.

How much of the proceedings have you been there for in person so far?

All of them. During jury selection, the setup was that most of the reporters, except for a very, very

small rotating group, were in the, were in an overflow room watching a closed circuit video

feed. And then once, and I was part of the small group that rotated into the main corporate room at that point during jury selection.

And once jury selection finished, there's a much larger group of reporters who, including myself, who've been sitting in the main courtroom.

Cool. So about these jurors and their media diets, let's do this piece first.

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